November Soapbox – At Last

With the arrival of the of Ranger II, so begins a new era for North American Arms.  Many of you will have seen a couple of posted video clips of its presentation (See video here.)

at the recent firearms wholesalers show (NASGW).  While the early reviews have been very positive, it’s the opinions of you, the ultimate customer, which will determine the success (or lack of) of this product.

The response to our Early Bird offer was similarly very positive.  While we are very happy with the orders we’ve received, the offer was oversubscribed and I’m sorry that we won’t be able to fill all the orders we received.  I’m told that everyone should be notified of their particular outcome before the end of this week and that we plan to begin slowly shipping product by the middle of the month.

I expect that by this time next month there should be a few dozen Ranger IIs in the field and I expect that most who have one will share their impressions and experiences in short order.  My fingers are crossed.  Hope you like it; let us know. – Sandy Sandy@NorthAmericanArms.com

Comments

  1. Glad to hear the great news. I believe you have a winner here, so no need to cross your fingers. If the quality of the Ranger II is that of the quality of the several other NAA guns that I own, you’ll pass with flying colors. Good luck with the endeavor. Looking forward to handling my Ranger II.

  2. Sandy,

    I am ecstatic about the long awaited Ranger II is a realization.
    I hope that I’d be one of the lucky one to get the Ranger II via early bird program.
    Thank you for you and your diligent employees for the pursuing the Ranger II.
    I truly looking forward to getting mine.

    Sincerely,
    Jack

  3. You better make this product a permanent member of your products. I had terrible luck getting one of your sidewinders. It took me two years to find one. And since these rangers are just as sought after perhaps even more its gonna take forever to get one.

  4. Thank you for making it a reality. Even if I’m not one of the lucky chosen ones I’ll order regular production when it’s available. Just let us know.

  5. If we are not picked as one of the lucky few to get one, can we not remain on a future list to receive Ranger ll before they would be shipped for sale thru distributors???

  6. I hope I still have a chance at an EB. I see someone that has been registered on the forum less time than I But has more posts than I is receiving two. If you’re oversold maybe limit to one instead of two so that more people can get one? Number of posts regardless of content maybe should not be the only nor main determining factor? Maybe also look to see if people have actually purchased from NAA not just chatted on the forum? Maybe go in chronological order of orders placed? Please email us when we can start having our local FFLs start trying too get regular production units ordered. Thanks to listing to my soapbox.

  7. When do you expect to offer the Ranger II to the general public ? I am not a message board participant but look forward to placing my order when available.

  8. I may receive some criticism here, but I see a lot of potential with this gun in its future iterations.
    What I love about the Ruger Bearcat is that it breaks the Colt SAA mold, and makes something much lighter and more compact than my Single Six’s. With the weight and relative shootability of my bearcat (small hands included), I love the utility that the gun offers.

    Yet, it looks like the mechanics of the Ranger design could really lend itself as well as a utility gun if the sights were improved, the handle was made just enough for three fingers (something like the sp101?, LCR), the capacity was increased to 6, 7, 8, (10?) and then add a much longer barrel length. If trying to commit to those fewer frame sizes, I can still see the 5 shots staying the same with the same overall grips. In such a case, I suppose the Hogue boot grip used on the PUG could remain with its two finger size, and then using a black widow as a bigger grip so while the length is increased, and width, the height is not. In such a case, those Hogue grips could even act like the LCR grips in making 3 finger as well as the two finger already there.
    Especially in a design like this, I think height and weight tend to be the biggest thing to holdback a pistol/revolver like this. Albeit, the Colt SAA is able to make a long gun without being a tall gun, and it is a natural pointing firearm. So while the weight will stay low with this top-break frame size (ie: The Ruger Bearcat weighs in at 22-24 oz, and this could easily beat that.), for the best shooting pistol, it is worth considering whether the bore is still too low when held. An increase to capacity in a new frame size to 6-10 shot would give it that slight bit of extra height (and possibly add room later for a 5/6 shot frame for another caliber, like 38/357), while also adding that titch of extra shoot-ability. And with a grip size increase, it could certainly become too much. The ranger already adds a bit of extra height, and this I do like and think it will make the gun more shoot-able. Perhaps only a frame size increase needs to happen in the design though, at a later point to keep your designs under a similar construct, if an 8/10 shot 22 and/or a 5/6 shot .38/.357/9mm is added at a later point.

    It certainly would no longer be in the category of pocket pistol, as the mindset would change from the most carry-able through size and weight to the best shooting with the intention of size. Certainly, as a pack gun, something like this could be stowed in a go bag, fanny pack, cargo pocket, open carry holster, calf holster, car, backpack, etc. Since the weight will already be low with the relative frame size, and size is forsaken (at least in length, and possibly width, considering capacity) for shoot-ability, you have this opportunity to create a still tiny gun by some dimensions that has the magic ability to shoot outside of its class.
    Lets face it too, most of your single actions are difficult to shoot, and certainly, not close enough for a kit gun which needs that extra bit of accuracy in the great outdoors. Something like the Hog Leg still needs sight adjustment, and the most shoot-able Pug, Black Widow, and Mini-Master still use the field strip reload despite getting much closer to a shooting gun than just a pocket firearm.
    Sometimes you have to break the mold in the mindset of size and weight constraints to remake it. What I like about single actions too is that the intention behind them was not for pocket carry, but by other external means that would fit well with the pack holster idea. As a result, the guns could be made to be as shoot-able as possible.

    Overall, I think with that relative frame size, you can make a gun that shoots out of its class with that mindset of shootability instead of pocket-ability. It would be the rimfire Bearcat companion of a utility gun, continuing the rivalry of the Colt SAA versus the Schofield design.

    And suffice, I love your designs regardless in this age of using plastics, aluminiums, and other wunder materials. I love the prospects, since, perhaps we can still create stainless steel frames that are still very competitive weight wise.
    Thanks for letting my theorize here, and look forward to the future designs.

    Cheers,
    Barney

  9. I can’t wait. I got an E-mail to the fact that I have been chosen. How exciting, the only other lotto that I have ever won was the draft lotto back in ’69. Thank you so much. Dave Caputo

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